Sunday, February 4, 2007

Waiting for Godot - Humanities IV

Describe the relationship between Vladimir and Estragon. Why do you think they stay together despite their frequent suggestions of parting?

18 comments:

Naa Koshie Mills said...

In Samuel Beckett’s Waiting For Godot, all of the characters seem to have a certain need to have a partner in their life. Estragon never leaves Vladimir’s side and Lucky always stays with Pozzo, no matter how much oppression he endures. These types of relationships are forged within the play because of certain aspects of the Theater of the Absurd. According to this theater, the world is absurd; therefore the characters in Beckett’s play are able to escape this madness by creating everlasting bonds. Hence Vladimir and Estragon have a relationship because by themselves they feel some type of instability, which is affected by the absurd world they live in.
As the play begins, Estragon and Vladimir meet and stand to wait for Godot. Estragon mentions that the same people from the previous night beat him in his sleep. The beatings are similar to the oppression that the world subjects him too. He then seeks refuge in Vladimir, who he views as his protector. Estragon himself is unstable because he is weak and Vladimir even states that if it were not for him Estragon would “be nothing more then a little heap of bones at the present moment” (Beckett, 3). Estragon always turns to Vladimir for comfort, even though the later is not stable either.
While Vladimir may seem as the stronger character to Estragon and the readers, he is still in a predicament involving his existence on earth. Throughout the play he is the character that gives all the directions and the one that keeps estragon to wait for Godot. For Vladimir his comfort lies in waiting for Godot and helping Estragon. He perceives himself to be stronger and finds it his own responsibility to take care of Estragon. Though his life is purposeless, void of any meaning, he sees some hope in his partner Estragon, and Godot. However it is careful not to overlook that Vladimir is unstable. An example can be made from the fact that he always wakes Estragon when he sleeps. This is because Vladimir is also afraid of the absurd world and sees his only escape in Gogo.
It is apparent through the textual examples that both characters share a unique relationship because of the absurd world of which they live in. Estragon is very weak and finds Vladimir a stronger person that is able to take care of him. Vladimir likes the fact that he has someone to take care of because it gives his life a certain meaning or purpose. In the end both characters are dependent on each other. Although they always discuss parting, that action is impossible. They fear the absurdity that the outside world begets so they must stay together in order to have comfort within themselves. If they were to part they would die because they are so dependent on each other. Estragon would not be able to handle the oppression of the outside world, while Vladimir would have no one to protect. This relationship brings the readers attention to the madness that exists in the outside world. Beckett tries to relate the absurdity of the world within this complex character analysis.
Works Cited
Beckett, Samuel. Waiting for Godot. New York: Grove Press, 1982.

Naa Koshie Mills said...

Marcus I agree with you that Valdimir feels some type of responsibility for Estragon. It makes sense because he is the one that directs Estragon on a daily basis. It is very obvious that the Estragon finds comfort in Vladimir. However Vladimir's predicament is more complicated to understand. He finds comfort in being someone's protector and also in waiting for Godot. This gives his life some type of meaning.

Unknown said...

Both Vladimir and Estragon seem to depend on each other. Vladimir seems to be a parental type figure to Estragon. Out of the two of them Vladimir seems to be the more responsible one, partly because of Estragon's bad memory. I agree with Naa Koshie, in that Estragon views Vladimir as a protector. At the same time Vladimir puts up with it, and it seems as though he enjoys looking out for Estragon and having Estragon look to him. People love to feel important and needed!

Anonymous said...

Vladimir and Estragon are dependent on each other. Although they repeatedly suggest parting their ways, they continue to stay together. Vladimir, as mentioned before by Marcus claimed that he is happier when he is apart from Estragon, even though he has missed him. But Vladimir feels that Estragon is his responsibility and he always comes back to him. As his friend he feels that it is his duty to comfort and aid Estragon. It is because of Estragon dependency on Vladimir that the two continue to stay together. I agree with Suzi, Vladimir does enjoy being the protector; it makes him feel needed and important. Their relationship with each other helps them cope with the absurdity and misery of life. Estragon is always the one who is unable to remember things, but he has Vladimir there to remind. He is dependent on Vladimir to be there for him, to protect him and help him. Estragon is more of the feeler and Vladimir is the one who thinks more. Vladimir ponders over the human condition. The two in some ways fulfill each other. Their relationship somewhat resembles that of a mother and her child. No matter what they managed to come back to each other and one could not exist without the other.

Unknown said...

Estragon and Vladimir's relationship is in many ways disfunctional. They often fail to communicate and, at a point, they concede that they are happier apart from one another. Despite this, the two remain together. The reason they stay together is that humans are inherently social creatures. They cannot ever escape the need to be with other humans, even if it is only to lay in sorrow with them. By being with other people, humans find a way to give their lives some semblence of purpose where a purpose might not exist. This conecpt implies that humans are constantly running from the meaninglessness of their lives. It is when Estragon and Vladimir realize this that they begin to think that being together is not actually helping either of them. However, humans can never escape humanity and like-wise, the two characters cannot escape each other, or atleast their inexplicable need to be with each other.

Tiana said...

I believe that Estragon and Vladimir have an unusual, yet thriving and healthy relationship. I believe that the parting ways of Estragon and Vladimir is very much unrealistic. If Vladimir and Estragon separated then the characteristics that come together to make up each individual’s character traits would be drastically different, since we have come to know each of them mostly through interactions between each other. The types of interaction that the two have are normal but at a number of times they are not. People forget what’s going sometimes, which is perfectly normal but forgetting what’s going on two or more times in one day not normal if all one is doing is waiting. I also believe that the two are more alike than they are different, in addition to the fact that they are both in the same status in life. Despite the major difference that people having been pointing out, citing Vladimir as the brain and Estragon as the dependent, which I definitely agree with.

Taara said...

Vladimir and Estragon each play significant roles in each others lives. Even though their relationship is dysfunctional, they are still able to cope with one another. These characters have a bond that seems to have lasted for a very long time. Beckett does not indicate how long these two men have known each other but it is obvious that they have shared life changing experiences together. This may be one of the prime reasons that Vladimir and Estragon are always together and never part. Also, the characters are incomplete without each other. Estragon depends on Vladimir for protection and stability while Vladimir seems to depend of Estragon for company and friendship.

Taara said...

It is obvious that in the plight of the characters it is important for them not to separate. Marty’s point about humans being social creatures is very true. In the saying, “No man is an island” it is evident that without each other these characters would be completely alone. Even when they repeatedly speak of separating they never do because they realize that they have no one else and will have to live the rest of their lives in social isolation.

Tiana said...

I agree with Taara. Estragon and Vladimir would definitely be alone without the other. I feel that apart the two would not be able accomplish any more than what they could accomplished together, if anything at all. Especially on Estragon’s part who is obviously the one out the two, who has to be answered constantly because he questions many things after they have already been discussed. While Vladimir may or may not do well alone, it would be a win or lose situation for him, because at times he’s aware and on other selected occasions he in completely unaware for a moment. The general point here is that they need each other’s support regardless of how slightly dysfunctional the pair maybe.

Michael L. said...

I agree with Marcus comment on reliance between Vladimir and Estragon. Once dependence is created, it is difficult to separate and eliminate it. The search for meaning in life can be found when values are created. In the play, Estragon was used as a constant reminder why he and Vladimir were waiting there. Estragon would always ask what they were doing there and when would Godot arrive. When no one could find a logical answer they decided to leave; however, they remained still and began the same countless routine of waiting for no one

Anonymous said...

I do agree that Estragon and Vladimir find comfort in each other. However, I think one cause of this dependency is a fear of the freedom that comes from being alone. When you are alone, you are free to do whatever you choose and are not responsible for anyone but yourself. However, like the prisoner in the story “The Guest,” Estragon and Vladimir are terrified at the prospect of such freedom. Together, they must care for one another, but apart they must choose their own fate. Their relationship gives their lives a sense of stability and purpose, something that their absurd world is missing.

Unknown said...

I agree with what Marty and Taara are saying. The relationship between Vladimir and Estragon is not one that people noramlly seek out. They are not bringing each other happiness, but they seem to need each other. The idea of bieng alone is a terrifying one to anybody. As humans we look to find comfort with other people. I see what Emily is saying, but I don't necassarily think they are scared of their freedom, just scared that their freedom may not bring them happiness, and may in fact leave them more depressed. There can't be anything worse than feeling depressed, without purpose, and alone. At least paired up with each other they have a purpose and they are no longer alone.

keonia s. said...

I believe that they stay together because they are afraid of being alone. While waiting for Godot, their lives have become somewhat of a routine. Estragon confides in Vladimir. He uses him as a protector, and in return, Vladimir feels that it is his duty to do the protecting. This is what holds the two of them together, without that foundation, they would feel isolated and alone.

Michael L. said...

I agree with the majority of Amanuel's post; however, I would like more clarification on the last couple of sentences. Hows does Vladimir feel great because he is capable of helping another person. Also,I believe that Vladimir and Estragon waiting for Godot is the most important part in their relation. Please explain.

Anonymous said...

I am sure if I agree that waiting for Godot was the most important part of their relationship, considering that throughout the play they forget why thay are there and why they must return. I do agree that waiting has become more of a routine than a purpose for them. However, I think the most important part of their relationship is the just the fact that they are together. Both characters want someone to depend on and to depend on them. This need is what connects them and keeps them from separating.

keonia s. said...

I agree with Michael. Waiting for Godot is the most important part of Vladimir and Estragon's relationship. I think that it is a way of escape for the two of them. Waiting for Godot gives them reason to stay together. If they never have waited for Godot to come, they would not have reason to remain friends, or even aquaintences. Because their personalities contrast on so many levels, waiting for Godot is something they both share and have in common. Therefore, it is keeping their relationship solid. Without that, there is no relationship between the two of them.

Anonymous said...

I agree with the consensus opinion that Estragon and Vladimir are two people that greatly depend on one another. One reason that I feel explains their dependency is the fact that they are two individuals waiting for Godot in very unknown and mysterious circumstances. In these times of uncertainty about their futures and the arrival of Godot, these two find comfort in the company of each other.

Anonymous said...

In addition to my previous comment posted, I also agree with Keonia's statement about Estragon and Vladimir's fear of being alone. the relationship that Estragon and Vladimir have is one that is built on Estragon's fulfillment with the Vladimir and vice-versa. If they were to separate, neither of them wold know how to continue their lives alone. Without each other creating meaning in their lives, their lives would be filled with void